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WHARTON LEADERSHIP DIGEST
March, 2000, Volume 4, Number 6
CONTENTS
Leadership Interview: John Ross, CEO of Deutsche Bank Americas
Leadership Program: BUILDing Leaders at Armstrong World Industries
Leadership Portrait: The Conservative Leadership Style of Switzerland's
Christoph Blocher
Leadership Quote: Darin Gilson, President and Chief
Operating Officer of
Campus Pipeline
LEADERSHIP INTERVIEW: John Ross, Chief Executive of Deutsche Bank
Americas

It is Absolutely Critical in a Merger to Quickly Establish Lines of
Responsibility
Deutsche Bank is merging its way to growth. Headquartered in Frankfurt,
its has 90,000 employees and nearly 7 million customers in more than 60
nations. On March 9 the bank announced a $30-billion merger agreement with
Dresdner Bank; the two companies are scheduled to merge before the end of
the year. This deal follows its acquisition last year of Bankers Trust for
$10.1 billion. This makes Deutsche Bank one of the world's largest
financial institutions.
What challenges do organizations face as they try to make such
mega-mergers work? What is involved in managing organizations across
cultural boundaries? Michael Useem, director of the Wharton School's
Center for Leadership and Change Management, discussed these questions
with John Ross, president and CEO of Deutsche Bank's American operations.
Useem: Before becoming president and chief executive officer of
Deutsche Bank Americas in mid-1999 you served as CEO of Deutsche Bank
Group Asia Pacific. What were the one or two biggest challenges in running
a German bank in the Asian region?
Ross: The challenges in that part of the world had nothing to do with
our being a German bank. At that time the challenge was that Asia was in a
crisis. Secondly, we were trying to go from being an old-line commercial
bank to a modern investment bank. As a result, not only were our clients
wondering whether we were going to do what other banks were doing - which
was to withdraw capital from the region - but we also had internal staff
members wondering whether they would keep their jobs. This was, first,
because of the Asian crisis; and second, because we were looking for a
different business model. Eventually things worked out quite successfully
for us, primarily because change is easier to implement in a crisis than
when things are going spectacularly well.
We made a policy decision that we were going to grow in Asia rather
than contract. Our clients, both government and corporate, responded very
well to this decision. We were able to do things that in the normal course
of events would have taken much longer. With Asians it typically takes a
longer time to establish relationships than in the West, but in a crisis
you can make things happen faster.
Our strategy of expanding in Asia and building an investment bank was
very well received by our staff and by clients. The staff members came to
realize that they did have the requisite job skills. We simplified the
management structure and made our business objectives and organizational
structure known clearly. I went to Asia at the start of March, 1998 and we
were completely reorganized by June. We stuck to a clear, simple strategy
and conveyed it to our clients, reinforced it with the staff, and this
turned out to be a very effective approach. Being a German bank made no
difference.
Useem: Since Deutsche Bank's acquisition of Bankers Trust in June 1999,
you have been at the forefront of integrating two very different banking
cultures. Could you describe the most important cultural differences
between the two banks and what you have done to overcome them?
Ross: One of the great challenges we had in the merger was convincing
people that the cultures were not all that different. Yes, it is true that
Deutsche Bank is headquartered in Germany. It is also true that Deutsche
Bank was for years seen as a commercial bank and Bankers Trust as a
wholesale bank. And obviously, Bankers Trust is headquartered in New York
City, so there must be cultural differences between the two. That was the
simple assumption.
The fact, however, is that before the change of control, two of
Deutsche Bank's five main divisions were run by non-Germans, and
approximately 35% to 40% of the staff of Deutsche Bank were non-German.
The investment bank - inside Deutsche Bank we call the investment bank
Global Corporates and Institutions (GCI) - is one of the five main
business divisions. That division, as it turned out, is predominantly run
by Americans. The bulk of the staff inside GCI are either American or
British. The bulk of the income that was made at Bankers Trust was made by
their wholesale banking business lines, and so it was basically Americans
talking to Americans. There was really very little culture clash.
Deutsche Bank also recognized that it is absolutely critical in a
merger to quickly establish unambiguous lines of responsibility and make
senior executive decisions as rapidly as possible. Such decisions should
also be implemented as soon as possible. We did that with Bankers Trust,
so that there was no confusion about who was running what, who was
responsible for what, and what was the game-plan and strategy going
forward.
We had a period of almost six months from the date of the merger
agreement to the change of control date. Therefore, on the actual day when
the change of control occurred, June 4, 1999, it wasn't a sudden change.
It was the continuation of a strategy and chain of command that had had
already been well communicated during the prior four months.
Useem: You referred to the importance of making prompt executive
decisions. When you hire or promote a senior manager at the bank, what do
you look for in the person's record and style to know if the individual
will be effective in working, managing, and leading across cultural and
national boundaries?
Ross: Ideally we look for market leadership in the particular product
line the individual is working in. Secondly, we want to know if the person
is a good communicator and is innovative. Deutsche Bank espouses five
values: Client focus, performance, innovation, teamwork and trust. We look
for all these values in our staff, whether they are in junior or senior
management. We look to see whether prospective candidates fit those
values. Where the candidates come from - i.e., their nationality - is
irrelevant.
One fact that pleasantly surprised executives from Bankers Trust after
the acquisition was that we are probably the most multi-national of any
financial services firms in the world. When you look at the bank's
executive committee, you will see that close to 40% of the members are
non-German. I don't think any of our competitors can state that that large
a percentage of their executive committee is made up of people whose
citizenship is not that of the firm's country of incorporation. This is
not particularly well understood by people globally before they consider
joining Deutsche Bank, but it is a very strong argument for us when we do
speak to them and demonstrate that it is the case. Newspapers have now
started picking up on this as well.
Useem: The announcement on March 9 that Deutsche Bank and Dresdner bank
will join to form one of the world's largest banks presents a new set of
challenges for managing cultural differences. From your experience in
overseeing Deutsche Bank's integration of Bankers Trust, what advice would
you have for consolidating your merger with Dresdner?
Ross: We are doing the same thing that we did in the case of Bankers
Trust, which is to early on make decisions about who is doing what, who is
responsible for what, and make sure that those people are able to
communicate with their own management teams. This ensures that on the
change of control date there is no ambiguity or loss of momentum.
Otherwise, you lose revenues; clients tend to take their business to the
competition until you've sorted out your management problems; you get bad
press; and staff are agitated and tend to focus on their own personal
concerns.
One of the biggest problems in mergers arise out of lack of decision
making early on. If there is lack of clarity with regard to reporting
lines, responsibilities, strategy, and so on, a merger that looks great on
paper can turn out to be problematic. Another mistake that I have seen
some companies make is that they try to be 100% correct in every decision
they make before change of control. You can be 85% or better correct - and
often that is good enough. You may make mistakes, but if you are flexible
you can correct them later.
Useem: Drawing on your service with Deutsche Bank's operations in both
Asia and the Americas, what are the most important qualities required for
leading the growth of global banking?
Ross: You have to believe in the premise that we live in a global
environment. Therefore, working globally, you need to be flexible enough
to understand and be considerate of other cultures because you are trying
to do business with those cultures. If you work for an American firm, you
may find that outside the U.S. American managers may not always be the
best choice. What should clearly count is product knowledge and the five
values I mentioned before. Managers should espouse those values and
demonstrate them. If you are an American firm, leaving the impression in
the market that only Americans can get ahead will limit you in terms of
the talent pool you can draw from. This is also true of German firms. We
have made it clear globally that you don't have to be German to get ahead
inside Deutsche Bank.
Note: John Ross is a keynote speaker at the fourth annual Wharton
Leadership Conference on May 18, 2000. The focus of the conference in
Philadelphia is "Leading with Speed: Developing Leaders for
Fast-Moving Organizations." Information on conference speakers and
agenda can be found at:
http://leadership.wharton.upenn.edu/l_change/conferences/conf_051800.shtml
Online registration is available at:
http://www-management.wharton.upenn.edu/chr/registration.htm
This interview will also appear in a forthcoming issue of
Knowledge@Wharton at <http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/>
LEADERSHIP PROGRAM: BUILDing Leaders at Armstrong World Industries
Armstrong World Industries is a $3.4 billion manufacturer and marketer
of interior furnishings with 18,000 employees worldwide. With learning and
change as high priorities on the senior management "agenda,"
Armstrong has implemented an integrated performance management system and
a comprehensive learning strategy.
One component of this learning strategy is a renewed focus on
management development, with action learning as a focal point. Three
programs address different stages of a manager's experience: First Time
Manager (FTM); REACH (Risk, Engagement, Action and CHange), for middle
managers; and BUILD (BUsiness Intelligence for Leadership and Development)
for senior-level managers. They all invite leaders to work on issues
impacting Armstrong growth as a way of learning by discovery.
All three programs involve participation over several phases, including
an offsite event to establish teams and a period in which participants
work in consulting teams on a real business issue. A critical success
factor is the involvement of the CEO, George Lorch, and his management
team. The top 50 managers in the organization are the source for the
projects that serve as each program's centerpiece. They also act as
sponsors for the cross-functional, cross-business unit teams, which
present recommendations to senior management at the end of the program.
The work of the teams has on occasion been the spark for major strategic
initiatives, such as the launch and significant investment in an
e-business strategy.
"We make certain, in individual conversations prior to the start
of the program, that both the participants and their managers understand
the nature and intent of the program and the action learning
process," said Bob Sawicki, Manager, Learning Strategy. "Then we
put them in a position of struggling with issues from a perspective that
is outside their comfort zone. We see them consistently overcome their
sense that they will be unable to understand the problem or add value. The
confidence and networking that comes out of the program is
significant."
Including world class guest speakers and trainers in the development
program is key to broadening the participant's thinking. Speakers and
topics are chosen for their relevance to the projects, resulting in
programs that are dynamic, changing with the needs of the business as
reflected in the projects. Speakers are asked to be provocative and to
expand the universe of alternatives beyond what has been previously
considered.
When Armstrong first started running the programs, some participants
expressed concern about doing the action learning projects on top of their
"real jobs," and whether the projects would be taken seriously
by senior management. As a result, the company works actively to ensure a
good combination of strategic importance and "doability."
Since project teams have had an impact on the business, the programs
are taken very seriously. The constancy of visible top management support
and the opportunity for participants to work closely with senior managers
has also energized the program. Jo Tyler, Armstrong's Director of
Organization and Management Development, concludes: "We have people
leaving these programs telling their colleagues that they've just had one
of the best development experiences of their careers. These testimonials
not only tell us we're on the right track, but they provide a lot of
motivation to keep refining and improving how we tie development to the
business."
Note: For more information about Armstrong's management development
programs, contact Bob Sawicki at <rjsawicki@armstrong.com>.
Information on Armstrong World Industries can be found at <www.armstrong.com>.
LEADERSHIP PORTRAIT: The Conservative Leadership Style of Switzerland's
Christoph Blocher
By Roger Koeppel, Editor-in-chief, Das Magazin of Tages Anzeiger,
Zurich, Switzerland
The controversial self-made billionaire Christoph Blocher is one of
Switzerland's most successful political leaders and entrepreneurs. His
hardline section of the conservative and anti-European Swiss People's
Party had had great influence in a country traditionally known for its
well-tempered compromise, reaching an impressive peak at the last national
elections due to Blocher's unrelenting efforts.
Blocker's multinational chemical company, Ems Chemie, has just had its
most successful year ever since Blocher took over 17 years ago. He saved
the firm with borrowed money and transformed it into a powerhouse.
The 60-year-old Blocher is one of Switzerland's prime movers and
shakers. He is a provocative figure, demonized as a torchbearer of right
wing extremism - which he is not - and smiled at because of his rather
peculiar country-style appearance. Blocher, the son of a Protestant
preacher, worked as a farmer before he studied law and made a career as a
businessman. The New York Times compared him to such figures as France's
racist and populist politician, Jean-Marie Le Pen. The Economist described
him as an "ardent defender of the status quo."
Blocher's leadership philosophy is inspired by military history and
practical experience. He doesn't believe in business schools and academic
ideas of management, which he considers abstract and therefore irrelevant.
In speeches, discussions, and newspaper articles, Blocher argues that
leadership comes down to total determination and a focus on employees. By
determination, he means the willingness to submit oneself completely to
the company and its goals. And "every leader," he says,
"has to respect or even love the people he works with. Only then he
can understand human nature in its practical consequences. Those who
ignore the people they lead will fail."
A deeply rooted pragmatism characterizes Blocker's approach. He
believes in the Protestant virtues of hard work, modesty and
understatement. "Leaders," he says, "should be role models
not because they buy fancy cars and cultivate extravagance, but because
they work harder and sacrifice themselves for the sake of the
company."
Blocker's success is a byproduct of his unwillingness to follow general
management or business trends. He acts counter-cyclically, anchored by his
conservative convictions whatever the circumstances. During the 1980s for
example, when major Swiss companies were seduced by the perspective of
diversification and size, Blocher preached the virtues of core competence
and focus: "Always concentrate your forces, don't do too much, but do
it right. You cannot win the war with your army spread out all over the
battle field." Blocher, a fervent admirer of Churchill, is also
fascinated by German field marshal Erwin Rommel's sense of risk, momentum
and surprise. "Rommel," Blocher points out, "led his troops
instinctively, and was admired by his men who knew that he would sacrifice
his life for them."
Blocher has avoided strong hierarchies in his company. He believes in
the power of individual initiative on all levels, and he personally helps
instill it through management development seminars. "A good
worker," Blocher says, "needs to have two features. First, he
must be able to fulfill an assignment perfectly. Second and more
important, he must be able to lead his superiors. He should not ask
questions, but take on the initiative. If a task lies beyond his
responsibilities, he must tell the person in charge what he thinks should
be done." It is by such measures that Blocher seeks to prevent
conformity. "A company dies when the workers and managers only do
what they are told."
The idea of individual initiative, dedication and focus lie at the core
of Blocher's down-to-earth leadership style. In one of his essays, he
described the successful entrepreneur as a horse, a tough and stubborn
animal that drags the cart against all odds and uncertainty, a lonely
individual "willing to invest everything for the success of his
mission - his money, his power, his creativity, his name and even his
health."
Blocher lives the ethos he promotes. In 1983, when he bought the
declining and highly indebted Ems Chemie as a rookie entrepreneur with
almost no capital of his own, he had to pledge his house and his wife's
inheritance. The banks even took away his life insurance. "At that
time," he says, "it was either me or the company."
Leadership, in Blocher's view, is a matter of life and death, and that is
why he derives his principles from western military tradition. And
"the longer I reflect on it," he says, "the more I am sure
that true leadership is deeply irrational and cannot be taught or
learned."
Note: Roger Koeppel can be reached at <roger.koeppel@tages-anzeiger.ch>.
LEADERSHIP QUOTE: Darin Gilson, President and Chief Operating Officer
of Campus Pipeline
Question from Wharton MBA student John Joseph: What are the "ways
that leadership in e-businesses differs from leadership in traditional
bricks and mortar businesses?"
Answer from Darin Gilson, President and Chief Operating Officer of
Campus Pipeline Inc.:
"The talent you attract is tremendous because it's such a great
opportunity that represents an enormous economic revolution that's
occurring, so I think you attract the sort of people that are pioneers,
those with pioneering spirits, entrepreneurial spirit. You also attract
very motivated, intelligent people. What that means from a leadership
perspective is that you can't manage, you have to lead. Talented people
can't be managed. They don't want to be told what to do. They don't want
to feel like there's a whip to be cracked and they have a boss. They want
to be led. They want to have examples shown to them and they want to be
motivated and inspired, and they want to feel a spirit of teamwork and
collegiality rather than a dictatorship."
You "really need to focus on leading, not managing, especially in
this talent rich environment. If you can do that well and give people the
creative challenges that they seek and desire, you can create a very
intoxicating, fantastic culture because you have a lot of people that
surround the company that have the same sort of value and ethics. It's
exciting and fun to come to work. Nonetheless, it's a very significant
challenge. I often think that it would be much easier to manage a factory
floor where you're able to encourage people to punch time clocks and live
by a code of conduct that you can mandate. Leading in a talent rich
organization, that's an adaptation you have to make."
Note: The full interview with Darin Gilson can be viewed here.
Information on Campus Pipeline is available at < http://www.campuspipeline.com/>.
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